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Post by TERRY TRUE on Nov 20, 2007 19:04:22 GMT -5
Amendment I Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.
Amendment II A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.
Are we going to lose another right???
We have lost the first one , no praying in school, can not protest in a peaceful manner, freedom of speech. Don't say GOD to loud.
Now the supreme court will look at the wording of the second. Lets pray that we can still own a gun.
WAIT ..................... THIS IS A PUBLIC FORUM WE CAN'T PRAY
ANY OPINIONS
Terry
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Post by jarhead32 on Dec 18, 2007 11:07:39 GMT -5
Terry- there are roughly 25 million veterans;against an est. 304 million (population for the US) =8.22 percent? Just think if we could get all those 'Veterans Organization's to speak out?? Wow!! Could they shake up Congress/ Power Brokers there in 'Good Old DC'? And we let our wishes be known? Don't forget some lobbies on our side-like the NRA?There are others known,although I can't think of them right now?-RichW/43 - As you can see,I have 'Hit Three 'that are close together-written at different times by me? I am not going to delete them because each had some of my thinking against the topic! Put your ideas & thoughts in here.Thx-Rich Watkin
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Post by swanny on Dec 18, 2007 22:00:35 GMT -5
Terry and Rich,How about a Veterans Party?We should be able to give the "Liberatarians" a run for their money!...Dale
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Post by jarhead32 on Dec 19, 2007 10:42:32 GMT -5
Terry, Need to stir Things up? Our friendly'Elephants & Jackasses in DC' have struck again? In our Nation,it is estimated that we are approaching 304.0 Million people,with there being approximately 25.0 Million 'Veterans'& if you do the math;equals-8.22% of the total population of the united States? A pretty good part of overall! Now, One would have to present to our "Legislators' what the people want? I know that sounds Naive-because they don't think the people can 'Unite',over anything? Here's an Idea-You go have every Veterans Organization-endorse the program & find a group of known 'Retired Military' to sponsor & make some 'Commercials'-Yes, in order to project power,we will have to create our own lobby & power group! We would have to raise funding to operate? Say,you all get active,reserve & guard military behind us;plus 'X' of the population? Yes, in my opinion-you would have enough power to force the politicians in DC,w/ their K street buddies,to see things you way? You would have to fight them every step of the way? (No one likes to loose?)Any ideas?-RichW/43--This is Nbr. 2
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Post by jarhead32 on Dec 19, 2007 11:59:15 GMT -5
All-As part of the discussion on the 'Bill of Rights',under the 'Topic Summary' the subject has many valid points presented? I have two writeup's shown there & what I am saying is collectively The 'Veterans' have power? 25.0 million vet's-against a US population of 304.0 million people??? By itself ,it is 8.22 % of the total. To be successful & yes,support & build a 'Veterans Party';a group would have to get involved in it,support it &/or sell it? It is very true our rights,have been taken over time & we have to stop them,through the ballot. "We the people want change & action"? If we can get the 'Military'plus "X" more of the population? Boy,will we have one good battle? Yep,more will come??-The Crazy Old Man-RichW/43--This is Nbr. 3
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Post by TERRY TRUE on Dec 19, 2007 17:57:13 GMT -5
Rich, Maybe I should keep my trap shut but I do know a way to get power over some of these politicians, its called weapons of mass destruction planted in the right place or maybe a AK47 if you want to pick and choose. If the government can release people who sell crack that kills our kids and grand kids what is wrong with a little American justice. If I only knew then what I know now.
NEWS FLASH........
Ron Paul says our government is going broke. WOW a very smart man. Wonder how he figured that out?? Maybe if we spend another 100 billion in Iraq we can get help.
Terry
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Post by swanny on Dec 19, 2007 22:55:42 GMT -5
News Flash! Our wonderful Government is not broke they just want the masses to believe that tripe! They've got more money that any country!.....Dale
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Post by jarhead32 on Dec 20, 2007 4:03:08 GMT -5
Terry & Dale, Since you two gave your ideas on what should happen in & to our country?Whether you agree with the War or not-we do have to have'Major-major changes' in our military ,politics (policies & programs) & government infastructure?? Like,something as simple as 'Line Item Veto', Budget Bills on Time' & the Spending of Funds for our Betterment? We start by 'Killing Foriegn Aid' & monies to that great monster the 'UN'--Then we will have monies to fix our countries transportation,for one? Build & pay for a Professional Service? Remember,the start of WW III,started when those 'Towel Heads'declared war on us- & killed 241 Marines & Others in Beriut,-& all that has happened since? We need our Strong 'Bill of Rights'now?-RichW/43
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Post by jarhead32 on Dec 20, 2007 4:21:15 GMT -5
Guys- On my above Postings- The 'Veteran Population' needs further breakdown, & I looked at two major groups-(1) Those 65+ & (2) 'Vietnam Era'! In the USGovt. Numbers ,we have 9.7 million ,under # 1 & for # 2,we have 8.2 million;if we use these numbers it equals 17.9 million vets of the listed approx. 25 million-so if roughly 18 million is here; then we can look at the rest-7 million? There is one major consideration in these numbers;under the 65+ group-the death rate is pretty staggering 1,300-1,500 per day? Of course,New blood will come in everyday! A comment "On Going Broke"?-We all know the Printing Office would crank up the presses again? But,at what value our money?-RichW/43
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Post by jarhead32 on Dec 20, 2007 4:42:24 GMT -5
Guys, Does anyone listen to 'Neal Boortz' on the Radio? He is one of the founders of the 'Flat Tax' Concept? If you listen to the 'Politicans/Govt;plus those who are involved in Tax Preparing & Practising before the IRS? It's Bad? Now,the IRS ,that is another story- I believe the USGovt. cited that 117 thousand people work for the agency? With the 'Flat Tax' being in existance a large number of these people could be reassigned to other agencies-Homeland Security,getting the most? There are plenty of things to do,to get us working again,under our Revised & Reissued 'Bill of Rights"! Think-A Brand New United States of America?-RichW/43
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Post by TERRY TRUE on Dec 20, 2007 13:34:52 GMT -5
Feller's This country was founded by our four fathers and a government was formed by THE PEOPLE FOR THE PEOPLE.\As I see it now it is by the rich for the rich and to hell with the rest.
As far as being the riches country why is it that our country has a deficit now ....more then any time in our history combined?
We have banks and mortgage company's selling our mortgages to foreign country's We don't but American anymore cause it s not made here anymore.
Some may think I have a negative out look but I see it as a reality out look.
Terry
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Post by jarhead32 on Dec 20, 2007 19:28:06 GMT -5
Terry, If I'm not mistaken China has now replaced the 'Japanese' in the ownership of 'Property,' our 'Debt' & I believe our money in US treasuries? My guess is they will want to be paid in 'Gold' or some other precious metal? You are right very few 'Manufacturing Plants,Capabilities,& personnel exist? What happens when we need them,next time? We would be forced to buy something from someone? Guess what,to make ourselves whole;we negate the 'Deficit' by Creating more Capital (Paper Money);with some sort of backing? Your believe may not be popular,but there is truth in it? I to am in that mode1-RichW/43
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